Games Inbox: Is the PS5 good value for money?

The Thursday Inbox has some very mixed views about the PlayStation 5 showcase, as one reader wonders if Oculus Quest 2 will work on Xbox.

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Very cross
Just finished watching the latest PlayStation 5 showcase and thought it was awesome, definitely one of the best next gen adverts I’ve seen. Or so I thought… I don’t think I’ve seen the excitement and good will generated from a conference unravel so quickly once it had ended. Massive increase in game prices (€80, really?!), expensive peripherals and, worst of all, at least in my view, pretty much everything shown is cross-gen.

I’ve really liked Sony’s generational approach that they’ve been espousing since the PlayStation 5 reveal and so for them to pull the rug from under everyone on the eve of the launch is massively disappointing and just makes me wonder what else they’ve not been especially truthful with cough cough backwards compatibility.

Still, the £359 Digital Edition will no doubt sell like hot cakes over Xmas but personally the PS4 Pro is the only mid-gen refresh I need, so I’ll be waiting another year or two before jumping into next gen.
Adam

Storage issues
There’s all this talk of amazing new gameplay experiences, with near zero loading, thanks to having SSD storage in the next gen consoles. While that could be great, the thought of having to shell out for next gen memory cards is less great.

We have these astounding looking tech sheets for these next gen machines, what with x amount of teraflops, 120Hz frame rates, 4K resolution, etc… then you see only 1TB of storage for Xbox Series X and 825GB for PlayStation 5.

With the current prices for SSD storage so high, it feels like they’ve pushed it onto consoles too soon.

When I bought the Xbox 360 Elite, and the Xbox One, I went in thinking, ‘There’s no way anyone needs that much storage’. With the next gen arriving, I’m thinking ‘There’s no way that’s enough storage’.

So much for progress…
ttfp saylow (gamertag)
Now playing: Ring Fit Adventure and Paper Mario: The Origami King

One week
Well after watching the PS5 event I’m a bit surprised. Let’s go straight to the end: a bit more then I was thinking if I’m honest on the Blu-ray model. I was thinking £400 max, but the thing that’s got me is a mini staged release, first in Japan and North America. The bit I’m wondering is South Korea – why there? A bit weird if you ask me. Wish it was a worldwide release, but that’s the way they’re playing it.

But I liked the event and God Of War 2, can’t wait for that. I know they only said the name and 2021 but if it’s as good as the first one I’ll be in my pants playing that. But GC, you might be able to answer this: the new Spider-Man – first they’re saying it’s a mini-game now there saying it’s new and a few years ahead of the last one. So is it a brand new full game or a mini brand new full game? Either way the game looked fantastic but what is it?
David
PS: I’ve just pre-ordered my PlayStation 5 and boy did GAME sell out fast. Blu-ray went first and I’m not just talking the console on its own, I’m on about the big bundle with all accessories, £600+. Trust me, it’s going to be hard getting a PlayStation 5 the way it’s going, it was easier getting the PlayStation 4 – so much easier.

GC: There wasn’t a single prediction of the console being as low as £400, that should never have been an expectation. South Korea is right next to Japan and where the consoles are being manufactured. But it’s a week delay, that hardly seems a problem. Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a spin-off, implied to be around eight hours long. It is not Spider-Man 2.

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Wednesday’s other reveal
Yesterday we saw the livestream of the new Oculus Quest 2 and with its connectivity to a PC I’m wondering whether Microsoft will be talking to Facebook about being able to connect it to their next generation of consoles.

Surely that would make sense if Microsoft have no intention to release their own headset? They could then run things like Half-Life: Alyx, which would be a massive system seller.

Unrelated, do you know if Microsoft Flight Simulator will be coming to the Xbox series consoles?
Birdmanrob

GC: You can already pass through an Oculus Rift to an Xbox One, so we think this is not outside the realms of possibility. And yes, Microsoft Flight Simulator is coming to Xbox.

Game of Fantasy
Did anyone else get a Game of Thrones vibe from Final Fantasy 16. Obviously with Final Fantasy undertones but the direction of the cut scenes were very Game Of Thrones.

Spider-Man: Miles Morales looked like they really wanted to show off the new lighting but couldn’t make an inFamous game. It’ll be interesting to see if it makes the PlayStation 5 turn into a nuclear reactor. I remember even inFamous: First Light made my PlayStation 4 take off.

A lot more to unpack. I could be here all day. Digital only games at launch, console exclusives, return of Five Nights At Freddy’s, PS Plus Collection, God Of War, and that Digital Edition price. Now we know. It was so easy yesterday. What a spanner in the works from Sony.
Anon

GC: We think that was exactly what they were going for. Or at least we saw it that way too.

Dive in
I’m amazed by the amount of people I know who weren’t considering jumping on board the next gen and now are due to the price of the Xbox Series S. Conversely, I’ve seen a lot of reports complaining about it not being able to run Xbox One games at Xbox One X quality, but that doesn’t mean it’s less capable than an Xbox One X. It still has a faster CPU than even the PlayStation 5, the SSD capabilities of the Series X and a custom GPU that might not be as many teraflops but will be able to outperform current gen in different ways.

So it’ll be able to do things the Xbox One X can’t even dream of. As for the SSD, people seem to think that’s a PlayStation 5 only feature, the Series X SSD might not be as fast but it is still integrated with the CPU, GPU, and RAM just like the PlayStation 5 to remove bottlenecks, so it can perform in a way not possible with current PCs and their traditional motherboard restrictions.

As for exclusives, Sony clearly have the big single-player games but Microsoft have more variety (in the few big exclusives they have) and far greater indie support. Also, the guys I work with (who are the definition of casual gamers) are all getting the PlayStation 5 but strangely none of them play any exclusives, they are all Call Of Duty and FIFA players.

The few other games they play – GTA, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin’s Creed, etc. are all multiformat, which shows how unimportant exclusives can be to the more casual gamer. The reason they are getting the PlayStation 5 is simply because they had the PlayStation 4, which shows how big an effect their sales from this gen will have on the next.
PjDonnelli

Match commentary
I liked the look of Gods & Monsters (sorry, now it’s Immortals Fenyx Rising – what a mouthful!) as I always enjoyed the adventure vibe and Greek mythology setting of the God Of War games but couldn’t stand the moody thug that is Kratos! The idea of a game where you play as a hero instead of someone hellbent on revenge appealed to me BUT what is it with the awful narration by Prometheus and Zeus?!

I watched some gameplay on YouTube and could only stand half an hour of it! I’m all for a lighter vibe and enjoy some good banter (like in the Uncharted series) but this is trying so hard to be funny it just got on my nerves! Who at Ubisoft thought this was a good idea?! I hope there’s a mute button!
LastYearsModel

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The three Marios
Excellent review of Super Mario 3D All-Stars. I really enjoyed reading that. I wasn’t sure how you would tackle the review but dissecting it into the individual games was a smart move in my opinion.

I’ve silently been keeping up with the Inbox and all of the Super Mario 3D All-Stars debate over the last couple of weeks and it seemed that when I had something else to say about it the next letter beat me to it.

‘The controls are so crisp that you can almost taste the salt and vinegar’ has to be the best line I’ve read in a long time, it made me laugh.

I have pre-ordered the game and was going to dip straight into Super Mario 64 but now you’ve triggered an itch for me to play Galaxy again first.

Having never owned a GameCube I’m still looking forward to playing Sunshine too, even if it’s just to see first-hand why all the complaints are aimed at it, which you have already pointed out in your 6/10 individual review score.

I was recently playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 on the Wii U and upscaling to a HDTV leaves the game looking slightly blurry, with terrible antialiasing. Gameplay was still intact and as remarkable as ever. I still feel that they’re going to release Super Mario Galaxy 2 as its own package, which would make me buy it again just for the updated visuals – even though I’m still an owner of the original game.

Keep up the good work GC.
Nick The Greek

GC: Thank you!

Inbox also-rans
Have you tried xCloud? What are your thoughts/review please? I wonder how the service compares to Stadia. I know xCloud is just one aspect of Game Pass, but do you feel the cloud streaming aspect of xCloud is the real deal?
Jez

GC: We did a review during the testing phase but anything more doesn’t really help much as so much depends on the connection you’re using. We’d advise giving it a go with the £1 trial.

In response to Echo and the assertion that Fall Guys is junk. Well yeah of course it is, but if you were stumbling through a desert for weeks without water and you came across a mud puddle would you drink from it? Beggars can’t be choosers.
Chris

The excellent Stick It To The Man is free on Epic Games Store from today at 4pm. I first played it on PlayStation 3 and it’s a bit like a Double Fine game. It’s very good I recommend it. Didn’t like their next game
as much but this one was very good if you like Double Fine style games.
Andrew J.

GC: We agree on both counts.

Just wanted to let readers know of a documentary called Pretending I’m A Superman: The Tony Hawk Video Game Story, which is available for the next 28 days on Sky documentaries and NowTV.
Chaosphere616 (gamertag)

This week’s Hot Topic
The topic for this weekend’s Inbox was suggested by reader JAH and others, and asks whether you are now considering buying an Xbox Series X or Xbox Series S?

What were your opinions on the Xbox Series X prior to this month and how much has that changed with the announcement of the Xbox Series S and the price of both new consoles?

The PlayStation 5 price is likely to be announced on Wednesday, so it may be best to wait until after that to send in your letters. But if Sony does reveal its prices how does that affect your plans for getting a console this year and is this the final information you needed to make your decision?

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